Wednesday, November 7, 2007

Poker, Faith, and Randomness in Life

Brian recently encouraged me to contribute to the nc-op blog, which by the way, is very fun to follow when people write. Initially, I was hesitant as I am pretty much a private person and I didn't really think there was anything worth sharing. But several weeks ago, I was watching ESPN as I usually do for a handful of hours a day and came across the World Series of Poker Main Event final table.

The WSOP Main Event is one of the greatest inventions of mankind. In my opinion, it is up there with electricity, cars, airplanes, mapquest, youtube, tivo, fantasy football... you get the point. Poker tournaments are run pretty much everyday in probably all fifty states and unless a deal is made, only one person emerges victorious. That's the beauty of tournament poker: whether it's a ten person home game tournament, a decent sized tournament in a local casino with several hundred entrants, or a major World Series of Poker or WPT tournament with a field of 500-600 of the toughest poker pros in the world, only one person emerges victorious. For everyone else, whether you are the first one out, or the dreaded bubble boy, or runner-up, when you are eliminated with that fateful river card, all your hopes and dreams are cruelly vanished. But until that time, if you are alive with even one chip, there is a certain sense of hope, that maybe this will be the tournament when all the stars align, the cards will break your way, and you will be the last entrant standing. Tournament poker has flourished in the last four years (since Chris Moneymaker splashed onto the scene) because it fosters a dream that maybe, just maybe, YOU might be the last player standing.

I've played in the Main Event the past two years and I don't think I'm overselling it when I say that there is nothing like it in the world. It is the Super Bowl of poker and ANYONE can enter. Immediately before the cards go in the air on the first day, there is tangible electricity in the air. As players are knocked out and you see the field shrink, that fantasy or dream that tournament poker fosters begins to grow. Perhaps I could be the next world champion of poker. And if you can in fact navigate your way through the largest poker field of the year, then you can try to figure out how to spend a sick amount of money. It's not quite as much as the Powerball, but it's certainly enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life. In 2006, I was able to last four days in the Main Event before busting out 286th out of a field of almost 9000. Unfortunately, Jamie Gold took home the first place prize of $12 million, not yours truly. This year, I barely lasted one level as I got all my chips into the middle with a set of jacks against a guy who had unimproved pocket aces and the winner of the massive pot who held a ten high flush. Tough beat.

The winner this year was a social worker from Temecula, California by the name of Jerry Yang. The Main Event final table was televised several weeks ago and Yang utterly ran over the table. I believe he eliminated all but one of the final table players and unlike last year, when Jamie Gold held a dizzying number of hands, I think Yang actually outplayed his opponents for the most part. Granted, if you look at Yang's poker resume, you'll see that he is a relative novice, and he did commit a number of big mistakes (though fortunately for him, his opponents made even bigger mistakes on the hands he played poorly), but all in all, he absolutely steamrolled the final table.

What I wanted to discuss was something that I saw repeatedly during the final table. It was pretty clear that Yang is a devout Christian and his convictions came across on television. I actually saw the final table live on pay-per-view back in July and Yang not only prayed during hands but it seemed like he was speaking tongues while waiting for the turn and river cards in key pots. Now, I don't have a problem with faith and hoping for the best possible outcome, but Yang's convictions were unique and thought-provoking. He actually thought that it was God's will for him to win the main event. In the middle of an all-in hand, he even said something along the lines of, "Lord, I know that you have a purpose for me in this tournament; so please, let me win this one."

Now, I may be over-stating this a bit, but it was clear throughout the final table that Yang sincerely believed that God was on his side. Watching all this unfold, I was intrigued. I thought, man, this guy Yang really believes that God is on his side and conversely that God is not on the other nine players' side. While his play was certainly aggressive right from the start and he benefited by making his opponents uncomfortably play huge pots against him, I thought that if Kravchenko or Lam or Watkinson got ahold of some chips, he wouldn't be able to overcome their experience and superior play. But in the end, Yang emerged as the victor. Without a doubt in my mind, he believed that God had anointed him to win the 2007 WSOP Main Event. While this is certainly possible, I am of the opinion that the Main Event developed totally randomly, just like I believe that the Boston Red Sox won the World Series randomly (meaning without God's intervention). It is possible that God interacts in a more hands-on way (I'm referring specifically to sporting events and other competitions), but I am skeptical. I think that it is much more likely that every hand that was dealt in the Main Event was totally random and that every player in the hand had decisions to make and that the results developed without God's intervention. Decisions were made, outcomes dealt with, and most players tried to learn from their experiences. Yang obviously felt very differently about his experience.

This exploration of God's interaction with human activity is something that I think about often. I know that a lot of people, Christians especially, believe that everything happens for a reason. I don't necessarily share this sentiment. I am a big believer in the randomness of life: the recent fires in Southern California, Hurricane Katrina, the fatal earthquakes in India (2001), the outcome of Super Bowls, World Series, Final Fours, and the Main Event of the World Series of Poker are totally random. I believe that it's a part of the human experience to actively participate in life's events and to learn from them. I think that trying to discern God's specific will in human activity is sort of over-reaching.

I hope you don't think I have a negative opinion of Jerry Yang. I'm actually happy that he won as he seems to be a very, very genuine and humble person. He has pledged 10% of his winnings to three charities and I think he will do a lot of good with the Main Event winnings and title. I thought he was very, very lucky to win the Main Event (but no more so than previous winners like Varkonyi, Moneymaker, Raymer, and Gold) but most significantly, I thought his perspective on God's will regarding Yang and the outcome of the Main Event was very, very interesting and thought-provoking.

4 comments:

paikdaddy said...

Good stuff, Peter. I didn't actually watch the final table, but I'll be looking out for the next replay.
While I can't give any definitive answers to the questions you pose, I do believe that God somehow intertwines His perfect, sovereign will with our own free will. Some things, He may "allow", while others, He may actively "cause".
I also believe that He is "on the side" of believers, but this doesn't mean that believers will get what they want or wish for. Many times, our unanswered prayers are the best things that God can do for us.
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
By the way, I may start asking God for that last out on the river the next time I play. Is that wrong? :)

Anonymous said...

ok... first off... this is ed suh...

cant seem to remember my stinking password to log in... :(




uh... geez pete... that was a pretty deep first post... :)

first off, i got to hang with your brother for a night... it was good to see him again.

with your "runs" that i keep hearing about, they'll be singing songs about you... living the life many would be dreaming (at least d yoo would agree)... :)

here are some thoughts on your post.... :)

in short... do i believe that it is all random choice?... nope... when you take an event and look at that as a single entity apart from everything else, then it would be easy to judge things as you see (katrina, fires, WSOP win, etc...) when you have the opportunity to look at those events in the backdrop of the things to come, it is easy to see how there was a plan for all things...

had a hard time understanding all the events that happened as i grew up... it is easy to see how all the events led to one another and how they resulted in who i am today ( for better or for worse :) ) i can choose to be the same person that stressed out before every exam, worried about my future, etc... or realize that was a lesson i was to learn... that there is a God that loves me and cares for me and is sovereign over all things in my life...

personally, i would have a hard time worshipping a God that did have sovereign control over all things. i think we just get into semantics when we talk about He "allows", We "choose", etc... I believe that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and all the other omni-words.... if He had a reason in place for my life, and a bozo "decided" that he would get trashed and kill me in a car accident, what role would God actually play in my life?.... any ?...

Choice... it is too often a crutch we lean on in our arguments... we feel crippled if we don't believe we have a "choice" in our life... i get it... i understand the need to feel like we have a "choice"... we feel like this would all be a game if we didn't have a choice... we want to believe that we have a say in what we do in our life... what if we do?... what if we don't?... does it matter?... does it change the way we approach life?...

caleb is now 7. we give him many "choices" in his every day life. are those "choices" weighted with what linda and i believe is the "right choice"?... sure... do we stack the deck in our favor at times? sure... is that bad?... dunno...

with three boys, fighting is par for the course at the suh household.. standing rule when caleb and jake start to "sword fight".... SWING AS HARD AS YOU WANT... BUT... if either of you cry, you're both grounded... so "YES" they have a "choice" to either fight or not to fight... reality is... there isn't much choice... they will learn to not sword fight at all... (it is only so much fun when you swing in SLOW motion.. :) ) were we tired of all the crying?... yup... was the rule "you are not allowed to fight"? nope... they were "allowed" to fight... but in reality, maybe not so...

so... are we BAD parents, because we didn't let our kids "choose" to not fight?... is "choice" such a valuable commodity?...

i am sure of one thing though as we raise caleb (and the others of course)... as he begins to make "good" decisions, he matures in his ability to decide for himself what is right and wrong... if he keeps making the same dumb mistakes, he won't be allowed to make more mature ones...

at the heart of it, none of us are sure if there is a "choice" behind any of our decisions... but i do know this much... im really not going to waste my time figuring it out... have a life to live... and one that i really want to live out in the FULLEST... any time i have asked my sons to do something "scary", i have asked them a few questions... in the same order... "who is asking you to ____" their response: "daddy"... "does daddy love you"... "yes".... "would daddy ask you to do anything that would hurt you?"... "no".... "then i am going to ask you to trust me, and believe that you will not be hurt by ______"

for me personally, my faith relies on the fact that God is in total control. im ok with that... cuz it doesn't change anything i will do... do i believe that He wants to give me EVERYTHING?... yup... would i not want that for caleb, jacob and noah?... ABSOLUTELY... if i gave all that i could to them right now, would it be for their benefit?... of course not...

guess for jerry yang, it was time for the 12 million to be given to him... do i believe that God designed that to happen?... you betcha... if He cant control such a small event as a card game, then exactly who am i worshipping, and why am i to be awe of Him?...

i get it... i don't like events like katrina... i spent a week down on the shores of mississippi volunteering down there 2 months after it hit... friggin' HORRIBLE devastation... cities quarantined by barbed wire, because all the carcasses had attracted a huge glut of wild animals, families devastated, etc... i DONT GET IT... but im ok with that... there are very very simple things that caleb doesn't understand... i just view myself as a 7 yr old in the presence of a God that does "get it"... and have to rely on the fact that He is as loving as i think He is... if not, no worries... i will have lived a life that is pretty "ok" ......... :)

good stuff, pete... hope nothing comes across as "offensive"... black and white text has the ability to be misrepresentative of the intent... treat this as "verbal diarrhea"... if anything, knowing you... you'll get a kick out of "another point of view'... :)

miss you man... if you get a chance, to head out here let me know... probably a greater chance of me heading out to vegas... :) it'll be good to see you... unless of course we see you on ESPN first.......

PR said...

Eddie,
Great to hear from you buddy. Its been a long, long time, no? Its so weird that my brother sees and interacts with you and Stacey more than I do. Crazy.

Interesting and thoughtful comments. I'm sorry that its taken so long to get back to you. You have a very interesting writing style. I would say that its not verbal diarrhea, its diarrhea of ellipses. Just kidding, brother.

Um, I don't really know where to start. I understand that you think God is in complete control over everything and I respect that. I understand that you think that it was God's plan or will for Yang to win the Main Event. I think that that is possible, but very, very unlikely.

You bring up the parenting of Caleb and Jake and some of the choices you lay out for them. I liken the interaction of God and the WSOP Main Event to perhaps your interaction to your sons' game of checkers. You may teach them how to play checkers, including the rules and strategies, and even proper etiquette and good sportsmanship, but when Caleb and Jake play checkers, do you really care or want to exert your will on the outcome? Its a game or competition and may the victor for that particular game emerge without the influence of a higher being.

I suppose we'll never really know to what extent God is hands-on or hands-off in the day to day activities of human life. I just thought Yang's perspective was quite unique, just like I would think your perspective would be unique if in a round of golf you prayed before every shot. 'Lord I know that you have a purpose for me so please let me drill this driver straight. Lord I know that you have a purpose for me so please let me nut this 9 iron approach. Lord, I know that you have a plan for me so please let me hit a world class sand shot. Lord, I know that your will for me is good, so please let me tap this putt at just the right speed and may the line hold true Lord."

I mean when you golf, do you think that God has somehow ordained your score? Or do you think that your score for that day is just random?

We may be running around in circles Ed, and I respect your thoughts and position. But one final thought. Regardless of what God's role is in human acticity, whether he controls or allows events and outcomes, the only thing we control is perhaps our perspective or mentality. When you golf or play basketball, do you pray that you or your team will emerge victorious? Or do you just play to the best of your abilities and learn from the game and the outcome? I just can't see God designing the ultimate winner of every poker tournament out there, every golf tournament out there, every basketball game out there, every spellig bee out there, every bridge tournament...

edsuh said...

pete,

hey buddy... i do believe that your thoughts coincide with the belief system of most people... so it is very likely that you are on the right path...

i will throw a couple of thoughts your way though...

your focus on yang's victory, the winner of checkers, golf swing, etc is where i believe that your logic fails you. the outcome of a tournament/game/whatever is rarely the "end game". Caleb is playing golf, basketball, and soccer right now... and has tae kwon do mixed in there as well... when he plays, do i ultimately want him to win? absolutely. i guess if you pressed me for an answer on whether or not i would be praying for him to win?... my answer would be "yup... you betcha"... who wouldn't?... is that "right"?... dont know... does it matter?... don't know... if i pray "more" than my opponents father, will caleb win?... nope... so why do it, then?..............

scripture asks us to "pray without ceasing"... don't know why... but here are some of my thoughts... and then some of you really smart people who know the hebrew can tell me that i am totally off and this has something to do with donkeys :)

i love my wife... when i try to love her as much as i can, i attempt to "think" like she does... what does she like to do, wear, eat, etc... i try to figure those things out and then make decisions based upon those "guesses"... sometimes i am "money"... then there was the time i bought a pretty nice purse that did not have the ability to "close" at the top... linda would rather prefer something that closes... so it was returned... lesson learned...

is "praying" that different? we try to figure out how God thinks. we desire to think like him, act like him, etc. we'll ask Him for things, and many times we'll be "money"... other times we'll be "off" and He'll give us something different... lesson learned...

pete, i wonder what your thoughts are on your past? was your acceptance into duke a "random" event that was chosen by you? your friendships and your relationships (good and bad ones)? where does God's "design" stop and end? If He doesn't control the result of a "game", how does He control what happens afterwards?

again, I get it... i understand how it is easy to look at one event and then decide if God has a hand in it. but there is a cascade of events that define our lives... yang's life didn't end with the WSOP... it is hard to see what God has in store for his win... but i'll be willing to bet that 10 yrs from now, it will be much much clearer... and i'll be willing to bet that it will be easier to see the sovereignty of God's hand in all these "games and events"...

your last paragraph asks the question of whether or not i pray that my team will emerge victorious... or "do you just play to the best of your abilities and learn from the game"... not sure why we couldn't do both... my desire is that God would be glorified in all that I would be doing. I also believe that I am to be victorious in all that i do. does that mean i am? clearly, you know that the answer to that is "no"... but could the answer be "yes".... yup... if we look at the lessons we are supposed to learn and the events that would follow years later... i believe that the answer would be "yes"...

you look at the WSOP as a random win... and that God did not have a design in it... i would argue that it most definitely did have a design... a life in front of the camera, 8 million dollars, etc... we may not know what that outcome will be for jerry... it may result in total bankruptcy for him in the next year... it may result in an amazing future... who knows...

i know that stuff like this doesn't get "resolved" on an internet blog site... but it is nice to be challenged on why we believe what we believe.

pete, i have the utmost respect for you as a person. outside of your passion for duke b-ball, i'd be proud to have my kids know you as a friend of "mom and dad"...

BTW... i always prayed that the OP's would beat the YP's during those outdoor basketball games at duke... NOT implying anything... but i'll let the final record speak for itself... hehehhehehehe :)

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